Re: Breadcrumbs

An unordered list is not a breadcrumb trail. ULs were invented to list
out items.

How is wrapping breadcrumbs in a UL going to help improve the blind?

On Jun 28, 1:57 pm, Leszek Stachowski <shaza...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > This should not be reliant on the framework. Breadcrumbs do not
> > require lists, just the same way header menus do not require them. Its
> > up to the developer if they want to wrap those items in those specific
> > elements.
>
> So what are, in your opinion, html lists made for? Why ever care for
> any markup structure, so its all up to developer? Every tag has its
> semantical meaning and should be used in purpose it was invented for.
> There is a distinction between syntax and semantics.
>
> > Its neither semantically correct or a standard. Using the
> > accessibility argument is a copout. Its very rare these days for
> > someone to be using a screen reader. Everyone has phones, laptops,
> > ipads or anything else that can render a page as is.
>
> WOW, that's dumb. You think that people choose to use screen readers
> when they are not disabled in the way they have to use them? That is
> rare, indeed.
>
> Cheers,
> Leszek Stachowski
>
> > On Jun 25, 2:32 pm, EnvyGeeks <jor...@envygeeks.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jun 23, 12:17 pm, Leszek Stachowski <shaza...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Hi,
>
> > > > is there any specific reason why HtmlHelper::getCrumbs() does not
> > > > generate semantically correct list of links? I mean:
>
> > > > <ul>
> > > >     <li>(...)</li>
> > > >     (...)
> > > > </ul>
>
> > > > If there isn't, I can contribute to cakephp and change it.
>
> > > > Greetings,
> > > > Leszek Stachowski
>
> > > While I agree it would be nice for it to output a list. I do not agree
> > > with you confusing people and misinterpreting semantics.  Semantics
> > > has to do with the organization and logic, this is why HTML5 had to go
> > > out of it's way to make things easier with the "nav" tag so people
> > > could see the entire structure of semantical code.  The logic is <div
> > > class="navigation"> and the organization is the list. So having just
> > > the list doesn't make it semantic...

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