Thursday, September 30, 2010

RE: Do I need to use sanitize?

Just jumping in here for my opinion, not advise.

I have seen this question many times, asked it myself along the way and I
guess the question asked includes the word "need". And as Dr. Loboto pointed
out, you do not need to. But I would like to my 2 cents and even though you
may not need to, I personally think of many reasons to do so. For me
appearance is key, the last thing I want to see is what appears to be code
entered blocks user submitted data. I do not want someone entering <?php
echo 'hello'?> as their first name and having that displayed to users.
If someone is entering crap info into forms to be a pain in my ass I make it
a pain in their ass to try to enter it and make it validate. The only reason
someone would enter code or malicious code into would be to try to cause
havoc. If they want to try to enter js snips, html blocks with inline
attributes go right ahead, I strip it all out beforeValidate(), my own made
cleaning functions for specific area of user input. If it takes someone 20
attempts to enter their first name because they wrapping it in code, using
numbers or symbols then that's just too bad because they obviously know what
they are doing they should not be doing. I say 99% would just enter their
name as they should. For that 1% of idiots, I would rather not have them use
the site so if its hard on them well then too bad.

Others point out simply let the und users put in what ever they want and
clean out all the unwanted stuff once its pulled from the db and displayed
to the user. I ask why? Why would you want to have mass amounts of junk code
saved in the db only to clean it every time its pulled? Would it not be
better off to clean it once and then never worry about it again (until next
save).

So I guess every app has its own unique issues for this question, maybe you
do not need to like you asked in the question but for me I think even though
it may not be "needed" for security reasons it certainly is for aesthetic
reasons.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: WhyNotSmile [mailto:sharongilmore78@gmail.com]
Sent: September-30-10 1:10 PM
To: CakePHP
Subject: Re: Do I need to use sanitize?

Thanks.

I'm just sending plain text emails, so that should be fine.

Sharon

On 30 Sep, 06:04, "Dr. Loboto" <drlob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I personally never user Sanitize as don't want to break user-entered
> data. Instead of it I use h() to escape all text on HTML output. On
> save to database also nothing needed as Cake properly escape data
> itself. So if you send HTML emails you need just escape user-entered
> text and that's all.
>
> On Sep 29, 11:43 pm, WhyNotSmile <sharongilmor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm creating a website which has a few forms, and wondering whether I
> > need to use Sanitize for those.  In each case, there are a few text
> > boxes which accept input from visitors; that information gets emailed
> > to a central address.  Nothing is stored in the database.
>
> > Do I need to use sanitize for that, or is it mainly for times when the
> > form data is going into the database?
>
> > I also wasn't completely clear on the documentation about sanitize -
> > it says Cake automatically uses it for saving and reading, but does
> > that include 'find' functions, and do I have to include
> > App::import('Sanitize'); to make it work (i.e. it's automatic once
> > it's included)?
>
> > Thanks!

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