Re: New Paul Jones Framework Benchmarks - Ahem...

Stop relying on these useless results. If you look @ what was done you would never create an application this way. And I have already notified him that his test for CakePHP are not on level with the other apps.

Sessions are started

3 helpers are loaded

1 component is loaded

Sessions being created on each request is going to show it slow in a test like this alone. AFAIK none of the other frameworks are using these.

His git repo does not have the tmp directory either, without this and debug set to 0 CakePHP will still run but will not perform correctly.

Want true results, build the same app on each and let people who know what they are doing build those apps. 

When I started this project and people started posting results like this I tried to get each development team to agree on creating the same app to be tested. None would agree so I left it and never looked back.

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On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 6:56 AM, keymaster <admin@optionosophy.com> wrote:

See this:

http://www.slideshare.net/pmjones88/framework-and-application-benchmarking

I love cake, but man, we ain't been doin' so well in them benchmarks.

Cake 1.3 weights in 3x slower than Zend 1.10, and 2x slower than
Symfony 1.4

I can somewhat understand why we are 7x slower than CI 1.7 and Kohana
3.0, as they are less full featured, so are expected to be faster (7x
faster is a bit harder to understand, though).

I'm a cake devotee because it's the best to develop with, the
community is my favorite, and it certainly meets all the scalability
needs I'll ever hope to have. So, practically, I could care less what
the numbers are.

But intellectually - what can explain those numbers from a relative
standpoint?

Symfony and Zend are pretty full featured frameworks, in some ways
more full featured than cake, yet their critical path execution limit
is  2-3 times faster.

Is it just a trick? Do they like optimize just one part of their
framework to make the "hello world" test run faster?

Why are we 2-3 times slower?

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