Tuesday, November 4, 2008

Re: Jquery or Scriptalicious?

> ... if you believe so much in OOP and codes
> must be clean even if you have to write 10 line over 1 line to other
> framework then you should go with mootools or prototype.

I don't want to start a flame war here, but that is _so_ not true.
About mootools, at least (prototype does seem a bit verbose, but I
don't use it much).

Mootools code is succint, elegant and with a high power-to-LOC ratio.
I know JQuery is "minimalist", but mootools is a far cry from verbose.

Plus, it's got a waaay better name!.

/end rant

On Nov 3, 10:24 pm, monmonja <almondmend...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It really depends on how you program your code, if your not a fan of
> OOP then jQuery is for you, if you believe so much in OOP and codes
> must be clean even if you have to write 10 line over 1 line to other
> framework then you should go with mootools or prototype. This is just
> my opition but the lesser the codes the lesser the debugging time, the
> lesser the bugs, the more productive you will be so my vote is for
> jQuery.
>
> If you go with the prototype and scripta way, you should definitely
> would what to use thishttp://protoculous.wikeo.be/
>
> On Nov 1, 3:37 am, "Samuel DeVore" <sdev...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Here's my take for what little it's worth (note I use scripa/proto)
> > if you want to use the ajax helper at this point you are tied to
> > scripta/proto.  now given that the stated plans in unofficial channels
> > is that the helper is either being migrated to jQuery or being driving
> > to a javascript _framwork_ agnostic place, it really doesn't matter.
>
> > If on the otherhand you see yourself not feeling like the helper as it
> > exists now will meet your needs and you will be wanting insight and
> > help from people on this list on integrating javascript _framework_
> > into your project, then I would say that the responses to your
> > question indicate, to me, that jQuery is a more of the current
> > 'hotness' and you are likely to get more help from people jazzed up on
> > jQuery.
>
> > To me it is a question of who is going to help you if you need it and
> > what do you think your projected needs are.
>
> > See totally unhelpful answer ;)
>
> > Sam D
>
> > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Gabriel Gilini <gabr...@usosim.com.br> wrote:
> > > Sorry, mate, but prototype also supports all CSS3 selectors.
>
> > > ps: I never use cakephp's ajax helpers, and I love writing javascript
>
> > > Cheers
>
> > > Gabriel Gilini
>
> > >www.usosim.com.br
> > > gabr...@usosim.com.br
> > > gabr...@souagil.com.br
>
> > > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Josey <josey.mor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> I perfer jQuery as well.
> > >> Many Bakers like prototype due to the javascript and ajax helpers that
> > >> come with CakePHP.
> > >> These make baking with JS quite a bit easier, not to mention faster
> > >> however many Javascript experts would cringe to think that developers
> > >> are using php helpers for the behavioral portion of their sites
> > >> because the scripts are no longer unobtrusive.
>
> > >> jQuery is very easy to learn and uses many of the same selectors that
> > >> CSS 2 and 3 use making it incredibly easy to develop around.
> > >> However, if you require a JS helper there is a jQuery helper for
> > >> CakePHP called pQuery.
> > >>http://www.ngcoders.com/php/pquery-php-and-jquery
>
> > >> If not then spend some time at the jQuery API and read through the
> > >> tutorials.
> > >>http://docs.jquery.com/Main_Page
>
> > >> I love jQuery.
>
> > >> On Oct 30, 5:49 pm, Matthieu <matthieu.aussag...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > Hello,
>
> > >> > I'm gonna create a web app using CakePHP but I'm confused about
> > >> > chosing between Jquery or Scriptalious? Which one should I choose?
> > >> > Does it really matter? What's the differences between them?
>
> > >> > tks
>
> --
> Monmonjahttp://monmonja.com/blog
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