Re: Are we using the slowest PHP framework there is?

Alongside questions about HABTM relationships this is one topic that
never dies. :)

I have said this before. I have no real-life problems with the speed
of CakePHP. I don't know all the other frameworks so there is no way
for me to offer a comparative opinion. But I have applications running
with several million rows per table by now and Cake keeps going like
it is no big thing. I do believe that Cake may have a disadvantage in
the mini-app benchmark but that that turns to an advantage when you
run into a lot of data and general complexity later on.

0.1 or 0.2 sec for a small application is a lot less helpful than 0.6
or 60 sec when you pile on the data.

Also the benchmarks measure heavy traffic. That is less important for
an Application framework than it is for a CMS. That type of benchmark
can never really measure the efficiency of the ORM or any other
"internal" part of Cake.

CakePHP (and Yii?) is primarily designed to build applications, not
"websites". You don't build something like CakePHP to handle the index-
page of cakephp.org. You build it to handle the bakery and the
cookbook and other more complex applications.

That said, If I was a fan of Yii I would also publish all the
benchmarks I could since they showed my framework in a good light.
Problem is... who wants to port the bakery to Yii and codeigniter to
do a benchmark? :)

/Martin

On Jan 26, 9:54 am, ProFire <ProFir...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> In my opinion,
>
> Performance is no longer the biggest issue in programming.
> Server cost no longer outweigh development cost.
> Most companies don't have a huge budget to start a new project.
>
> What my company does is, develop a full-fledge programme first.
> Make the money!
> If the project fails, FINE! But if it succeeds, move on!
>
> Identify the bottlenecks areas.
> Hire Python developers to switch the bottleneck areas from CakePHP to
> Python, the fastest programming language in the world.
> We won't even bother switching to a faster framework. We just go
> straight to the fastest language and start from there.
>
> And there we have, best of both worlds.
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