Re: Extracting core & validation messages for I18N with the cake shell

why not just use https://github.com/cakephp/localized#po-files

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On Sunday, 9 December 2012 20:50:15 UTC+1, Cyrille Faucheux wrote:

That's also what I thought.

Which is the reason why I can't see why I cannot extract in one operation every messages that may be displayed by my app: the core messages (like you said, the times/dates stuff), my app messages (from my views, controllers...) and the model validation messages.

I've opened a ticket on lighthouse about my issue: http://cakephp.lighthouseapp.com/projects/42648-cakephp/tickets/3442

Le dimanche 9 décembre 2012 20:01:07 UTC+1, euromark a écrit :

@cricket

I think you messed sth up earlier.

the dev messages (domain dev) are the ones not public.

the normal core messages will very much end up in the frontend (being times/dates for examples or other global stuff)

its just that they do not change that often - compared to the app ones.

Am Sonntag, 9. Dezember 2012 03:00:02 UTC+1 schrieb cricket:

On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 5:10 AM, Cyrille Faucheux
<cyrille....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, using version control is a solution, just as saving and replacing some
> files, but I don't like this solution, because it requires a manual
> intervention.
>
> What do you mean by "nothing will get done" ? That "it's working the way
> it's meant to work", or that "nobody will take care of it" ?

I was referring to your unwillingness to overwrite your pot files. But
I think now that I misunderstood what you meant. When you extract the
core files you should be asked: "Would you like to merge all domains
[sic] strings into the default.pot file?"

If you choose not to, you'll end up with several files:

app.pot  cake_console.pot  cake_dev.pot  cake.pot  default.pot

The default file is the one with your app's strings.

> I can submit a patch if it's what you are pointing out. I'm just looking for
> some insight about how it's supposed to work.

I don't know what the initial problem is, or whether it's a bug. If
you think it is you can report it here (or check if it's already
there):

http://cakephp.lighthouseapp.com/dashboard

> Currently, I can't see why the extract process has an option
> "--extract-core". Why would someone want to ignore the core messages ? And
> why extracting the core messages is exclusive to extracting the validation
> messages ? Does someone knows why it has been desined this way ?

Many people (myself included) will not want to translate the core
messages because with debug = 0 they will not be seen by the public.
If I'm not going to take the time to translate them, I'm not going to
want them extracted (and certainly not merged into default.pot). The
exception is for 404 errors and such, but those can be placed in
View/Error and they'll be extracted along with the rest of the
non-core files. But missing_action, missing_table, etc. can be ignored
because those aren't errors that should be thrown in a live site. Of
course, it's another story if your developers would prefer reading dev
errors in their own language. But it's good to have the option whether
to extract everything or just the app's strings because a lot of
people can't be bothered.

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