Re: Cake 3.0

Upgrading from 1.x to any 2.x is doable and really not that big of a deal.

Mostly preg_replacing which can be automated, and some other stuff like renaming/folderstructure which also can also be automated.

I use an extended upgrade shell for this - and it takes me less than 10% of the time it needed otherwise.

Only some things need to be adjusted manually. But the migration guides help you here.

So I dont really see the issue if you got a few days (for larger projects) - they will be worth it (think about all the improvements).

You just can't expect it to work within 1 hour.

Upgrading to 3.x might be a little bit more difficult.

Most upgrades will also be doable with the same approaches above.

Some might not. But 3.x will be a complete rewrite of model layer for example. So what would one expect?

Lets just wait until it becomes clearer - and less theoretical

Also, keeping in mind what will be deprecated, and what features will persist and be improved helps to code apps future-proof

One aspect that came up in the past: query strings instead of named params. I wrote about it a few days back.

If you - like me - start writing new apps with the 3.x way of how its done - the potential upgrade will be far less complicated.

And there is usually a good reason why some things change over time and will be more important/correct in future versions.

No need to cling to stuff that will not be supported or is already clear to be dropped.

So you can write clean and DRY code. You can also stay up to date and use best practice approaches and switch from deprecated to new ways of doing it.

Then, upgrading will be kinda quick, easy and fun. Having to recode a whole mess of code at once isn't, though.

Am Montag, 13. Mai 2013 19:11:35 UTC+2 schrieb Jamie:

I personally didn't bother to upgrade any production sites from 1.3 to 2 - I just started over. I found that it took just as long to convert my existing custom code than just to do it over again. I will likely do the same when 3 comes out: develop future projects in 3, maintain current ones with the current version.

On Sunday, May 12, 2013 12:44:48 PM UTC-7, advantage+ wrote:

Yes I would have to agree with you. Rather harsh but ohh well.

 

It will be fun upgrading to 3.

 

All I wanted to know was if they have 3.x in development maybe there was a way to get a jump on the change over.

Something that might be backwards compatible. Still works in 2.x but in 3.x it will be this way just to get a jump start rather than waiting till the release and saying ohh wow now I need to re-do everything again.

 

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"If not it's your code that sucks" - that's a little harsh, don't you think? Sure doesn't reflect well on the professionalism of CakeDC.

 

Upgrading from 1.3 to 2.0 is time consuming and tedious, especially for large projects. The upgrade shell helps but by no means does all the work. Going from 2 to 3 will likely be difficult as well given that the model layer is being re-written. 


On Saturday, May 11, 2013 5:10:30 AM UTC-7, Florian Krämer wrote:

Write clean code, follow the CakePHP coding standards and use the API correcty and upgrading will be easy as it ever was in the past. CakePHP was always easy to upgrade, if not it's your code that sucks and needs a refactor anyways.

On Saturday, May 11, 2013 5:37:02 AM UTC+2, advantage+ wrote:

Is there any date set / expected?

 

Is there anything we can do to current sites to anticipate the new release to get ahead of the changes?

 

Thanks,

 

Dave

 

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