Re: Pros and cons of Cakephp versus Laravel

I've not had experience with Laravel, but with regards to the "magic" being a con, specifically when it comes to the convention of models, table names and controllers, I've had plenty of experience with using legacy databases that don't conform to the convention, and have still been able to use them, without changing the database to suit. 

That flexibility one of the reasons I use CakePHP.  

You can override $name on the controller, and use a controller name that doesn't conform to the convention.

You can override $useTable [http://book.cakephp.org/2.0/en/models/model-attributes.html#usetable] on the model, to map to a table that doesn't use the plural convention. And you can use $useTable to suppress mapping to a table altogether (for implementing web services via the model).

The only time I've had to fight CakePHP is when I want to extend the FormHelper to add additional types, or override existing types for alternate output and convenience.  However, that doesn't happen very often.

With a minor modification to the core (index.php), I've never had success in integrating CakePHP Sessions into legacy applications so I can gradually migrate and introduce new functionality using CakePHP to the legacy application.

If there are specific cases of magic that you're concerned with, let us know, and someone could probably tell you if what you're wanting to do would be a problem or not.

Regards

Reuben Helms

On Monday, 20 January 2014 12:17:27 UTC+10, Sam wrote:

Dear Cakephp gurus,

I have used cakephp in a past project (simple one) and I would like to continue using cakephp in a new project. There are some voices which advocate using Laravel which is an up-and-coming php framework. 

For experienced programmers who know something about both frameworks, could you tell me what are the pros and cons?

Since I use cakephp before, here are my comments about cakephp;

Pros

- It uses convention over configuration

I like this because I am forgetful. If the framework uses configuration over convention, I may miss out things to configure when things are changed or added to the code.

Cons

- It does quite a bit of magic in the background(can be good or bad) and loses flexibility in the process. If the programmer wants to do special things, he may have to fight cakephp.

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