Re: CakePHP 3.0.0-alpha2 released

If you use good caching of expensive database requests, and offload static files to a CDN there is no need to bother with full page caching for most sites.

Our CMS with warm caches can display a somewhat complicated page in about 100-200 ms ...

/thomas

On 29 Jul 2014, at 12:22, HK <hkosmidi@gmail.com> wrote:

Why isn't needed? Why do I have to bother the server with more proccessing? I have for example a (medium size) VPS with 40+ domains. Some of them use cakePHP, and hopefully more in the future.
While each site is rather small (some with many pageviews though) all of them are hosted on the same server.

Moreover you can achieve less page load times which IS crucial for visitors, SEO, etc.

On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 1:07:01 PM UTC+3, José Lorenzo wrote:

For those small sites, is having full page cache actually needed? I would guess that performance wouldn't be a big concern in those cases

On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 11:47:16 AM UTC+2, HK wrote:

For small sites that I develop is very helpful. The need to use/configure/monitor extra software like varnish is pain in the ass, especially if you don't have big sites to host.

On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 11:28:17 AM UTC+3, José Lorenzo wrote:

HK why would you miss it? There will be no replacement for the cache helper. We recommend using Varnish, which provides the ESI tags. They are similar to the cache tags but they involve internally doing another request. We think this is a more robust and scalable solution than doing it in PHP.

On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 9:06:36 AM UTC+2, HK wrote:

Too sad to hear cache helper is removed. This ESI based replacement is it going to be in stable 3.0 version?

On Monday, July 28, 2014 10:13:14 AM UTC+3, José Lorenzo wrote:

CacheHelper has been removed from CakePHP. The core team feels that the functionality this helper provided is best handled by standalone servers like Varnish. While we explored building a ESI based replacement for CacheHelper, there were a number of edge cases that would have complicated the implementation.

 

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