Thanks Stephen I did a cake bake all (auto) which generated all the models- in hindsight perhaps manually coding them would have been an advantage? I used dogmatic69(.com) yesterday and it told me there was about 3 tables which were named incorrectly: it would of been nice for cake bake to tell me before I even started: so I will rename tables and rebake a couple of the models to see if that helps before I get down and dirty with modifying the belongsTo etc Cheers
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