Wednesday, March 12, 2014

Re: Is Cake Dead Or Just Catching Up?

Actually it is almost apples to oranges. The philosophy of CakePHP has been to be a full stack, highly opinionated framework, I very much prefer this. This is in stark contrast with Laravel where you can do the complete app in the Router. This is great for developing concepts but encourages bad practices. Also there is a lot of confusion in Laravel land as to what goes where and everyone and their brother have their own perfect App folder setup.   

The coolest thing which I miss is the ViewModel pattern which Laravel does via View::composer, in cake the best I can do is create a helper and use it as ViewModel - I used this a lot to create widgets in my applications

Another thing which I liked was http verb prefixing to controller actions, so for example getAdd and postAdd are separate methods called on appropriate http methods avoiding the "if ($this->request->is('post'))" spaghetti in controllers. 

Strong focus on using migrations for database/table creations.

Built in messaging queue system with multiple backends - though they do not have gearman by default

Validation as a service

There are several such things which made me go - Oh! they have this, Nice... 

That said - here I am back with CakePHP because I just never felt at home out there :)

Tarique



On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 3:27 PM, José Lorenzo <jose.zap@gmail.com> wrote:
Tarique, as a former Laravel user what do you think can CakePHP 3 to improve and appeal those users that think laravel is better?


On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:24:44 AM UTC+1, Dr. Tarique Sani wrote:

> But I seem to notice less and less so I was only wondering if people are jumping ship and moving on to other frameworks.


Then this would be a wrong place to ask ;-) 


Tarique



On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Advantage+ <movep...@gmail.com> wrote:

In no way am I putting Cake down, I love Cake and use it for almost every project. I love it!

I just see lack of fan fare as you can call it over the years. I see familiar names always answering questions for users. That’s great!

 

But I seem to notice less and less so I was only wondering if people are jumping ship and moving on to other frameworks.

 

That’s all.

 

From: cake...@googlegroups.com [mailto:cake...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Thomas von Hassel


Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 4:46 AM
To: cake...@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Is Cake Dead Or Just Catching Up?

 

If you switch frameworks every 6 months you are doing it wrong.

 

So far CakePHP does what i need it to do, and i see no reason to shop around. Also, with the things coming in 3.0 I’m very optimistic about the direction the dev. team is taking.

 

In regards to traffic on the list/google group, i suspect a lot of newbies end up on Stack Overflow, and not here.

 

/thomas

 

 

On 11 Mar 2014, at 06:13, Advantage+ <movep...@gmail.com> wrote:



Looking at these stats is Cake dead?

 

 

Can it keep up or catch up?

 

Over the years I would see 50 Cake messages a day, now it's lucky if you see 2 topics with 1 response in the daily abridged update.

Very few questions hit the inbox, less and less ever day…..

 

Don’t get me wrong I love Cake but is heading out to the pasture to call it a day?

Seems no longer a popular framework as others pop up.

 

Others are much faster, and have everything Cake has to offer and more.

 

Everyone has an opinion, let's see if anyone replies or too busy with other frameworks J

 

 

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